Tisziji Munoz: Live at the Middle East Cafe Boston, MA March, 1999 Tisziji Muñoz - guitar John Medeski - piano John Lockwood - bass Ra-Kalam Bob Moses - drums Category: Music Tags: Tisziji Munoz John Medeski John Lockwood Ra-Kalam Bob Moses

1. Do People Have a 'Life Mission' & How Can We Know? Question: "do we come into this world with a 'life mission', if so how do we determine what that is?" Tisziji: "To find a purpose beyond what the River of Blood(genetic & cultural stream of being) would have you do by way of it's programs - is really like looking for a needle in a haystack ... your programs more or less delineate a certain kind of purpose, by way of instincts, of desires, preferences, self-images, egoic identity, family business, educational rites of passage, etc. ... so you realize REAL purpose as you start losing contact with the programs, as they start to dissolve or as karma, accidents, circumstances or shocks break the self-mechanisms down, which you inherited from the river of blood, and you start seeing that you have no choice but to go the way of this self-realized purpose - beyond being a slave ... most people as they wake up they want to go beyond that slavery ... and slavery includes being the president, a king, a ruler, a gangster, a great artist .. all of that is part of the programming of slavery where you are acting something out, but you're not really being that "

Question: "So would .. one's fulfillment of ones river of blood(genetic & cultural stream of being) purpose in life, would that constitute a rejection of the spiritual life?" Tisziji: "The river of blood does not necessarily equate with an anti-enlightenment agenda ... ultimately every darkness is part of the Enlightenment process ... shock any kind of sudden realization of the impermanence and that mean intuitive changelessness is good, it's part of the process of awakening beyond imprisonment, beyond suffering and so on ... because for the most part what you call your self-life, your path, is subjective reactions to life circumstances - either on the positive side or the negative side, feeling Good or Bad, But Not Feeling Free .. always wanting for more stimulation, more excitement, entertainment, sensuality, more Trips, more impressions, you want to be impressed, more possibilities, more hopefullness. All of that smells of Un-Enlightened suffering and grasping and clinging and pain! That's good, then you can sense your (potential) freedom from it! "

Question: "is our mission common to us to break free of conditioning and go wherever it goes from there?" and "question on charity and ego and selfless service" Tisziji: "well let us say, at first you have to explain in what context charity is real ... is it an ego saying i want to give something for a certain purpose? That's not real charity, Charity is LOVING , Loving should be FREE, is shouldn't be on the materialistic level of 'will i be seen as good?' ... Will it make me look important or to like myself? ... OR the other side of this is more, Just giving, because it's your nature to give, selfless giving is thoughtless giving! BUT it's intelligent, it's not stupid .. you don't give your car away to somebody who's going to wreck it, or who has never driven a car before!!"

TIme of No-Time, Addicted To Liberation, Become Your Own Neighbor Question: (quoted from book) "In the Time of No-Time, the entire Universe springs into Consciousness" Tisziji: "it's obvious that there are infinite dimensions, and that THIS is an explosion from one dimension into another dimension, that's it, a bursting point ... ." Question: (quoted from book) "Only addict yourself to spiritual liberation, anything else is the Program of Avoiding Freedom" Tisziji "That is like saying Love God with all your Heart and Soul. Then you may love your neighbor as yourself .... because your neighbor then doesnt exist, you are just LOVE. There is no neighbor, you become your neighbor ... you have to find Peace in you, within you, with all your body parts, with all your functions, all your levels of consciousness and all your dimensions or potentials .. the Source of the Creative Itself"

Question: (quoting from book) "Reverse the process of self-imagining from being effect to being cause, this is good practice toward being creative, then burn the reverse process, killing all the effect and their causes" Tisziji: "You are defeating yourselves, you are defeating your own purposes by wasting the treasures that you're given. Exhausting yourself so you didn't even have the energy to open the treasure chest ... and so this is the invitation, you see ... to BE the treasure chest for others! "

Question: "Your make-believe programs have been your only medicine, no wonder you are always sick ..." Tisziji: "See .. that's funny, becasue everyone is happy being sick ... joyously toxed out. No problem, except that it doesn't serve your awakening ... and that is what we need to establish here, see? If it helps you - and gets you to that place ... and it helps you to bliss and enlightenment, then give me some too, put it in my coffee .. i ll have a little of that. HOWEVER, these thing are crippling the people, disabling them, resulting in profound dysfunction of perception, so they are losing their abilities feelings, sensitivity, physical ability ... losing their creative ability ... they are becoming less .... and that is ONE possibility, they are free to do that. May the Blessings Be with them too. But for others, you're here to do more, to bring healing & intelligent creative juice to thers, so they can be inspired .... evolving, sharing wisdom and opening to higher levels of realization and service, which is good. You become more part of the Tao, the Flow the Sound Current, the Shabd!"

Question: "while you are poor in Spirit, you companions belong to you and you to them - but when you are full of Peace then you belong to no-one and no-one belongs to you" Tisziji: "You're suffering so badly, you hold them back and you hold yourself back! You cling to people and make sure they don't grow and they don't wake up and they do the same for you. You kill each other spiritually ... what good it that? That's a Bad Movie! .... Wake Up! ... free yourself & free everybody. See if you're even capable of happiness, of wisdom .. and more importantly THIS IS NOT RELIGION! This is creative science ... test the results, prove it to yourself, that you Can Change and be a Creative part of the Dynamic Intelligence that is All Pervasive"

Question: "Those without Spiritual wealth or realization are the most lonely being of all" Tisziji: "in the material world ... those who buy more & more garbage have this delusion that they have it even more together, when in fact they are less and less conscious and more mechanically programmed to pretend to themselves that they have MORE when they have more problems, more burdens, and they live as such ... .... IT is within. The kingdom within is the Infinite looking inside, looking inside, looking inside ... until you find what it IS. At the infinite point of looking inward. that's good practice."

Question: "(are you) saying that by being SILENCE, and creating that, one's debts to humanity are resolved?" Tisziji : " ... Before you can get to Silence it is said you must pay your debts properly, and that means to Give Love To All People ..... "

Question: "You have said "The self-created hellfire you fear is created of ignorance" does this mean that fear is a self created illusion?" Tisziji: " for the most part, some of it is of the body, it's <i>smart</i> fear, BUT we have programmed our selves and each other to be afraid of nothing. Like boogey men, we have created a world of people living in a boogey-man ghost-land, Like make-believe fears ... afraid of looking a certain way ... being afraid of creativity, being afraid of being True, being afraid of self-mastery, being afraid of freedom and the Transcendence which Love actually IS"

Question: "you've written that "All lords, worlds and laws are created of, in and by the Silence" .. how is this possible?" Tisziji: This mystery is that even in the midst of being embodied - you are prevade by the presence of silence - the emptiness from which everything manifests, and dissolves and dis-appears .... The Silence, I have said it is Empty-Fullness ... that is what makes enlightenment possible, the opening to that which is beyond form, and ultimately formlessness"

Question: you've said that "No Ego is the Truth of God's Love" ... does this mean that the ego is not truth or not love? Tisziji: "It could be said, that Ego is that which stands in the way, as a form of subconscious obstruction, to that which is the freedom and magnificence of Heart-Love, Transcendent Love or Pure Selfless Compassion .... there cannot be and is no formula about what that is, beyond a point, when you're selfless there is nothing else but the Heart"

Question: "In your book 'Gospel of the Silent Ones' you've written "The KAL is the Lord of the face of Time, and this time only rules the worlds of nature and mankind" ... does this mean that one is subject to the Kal or capable of being beyond such forces?" Tisziji: "the Body-Mind is a Time Machine ... when we start to Transcend Our Programs of time and material space, we begin to go Beyond the Kal. But most people are AGREED to be In the time-body, AS the time-body, subject to the programs of the time-body. Kal is a machine, a mechanical entity, like the matrix, it's part of a mechanical entity that IS the universe.... We are the consciousness that's able to be the forms in the machine, we are subject to and thus not completely bound to.Kal ... Kal is lord until you Wake Up!"

Question: you've said that "No Ego is the Truth of God's Love" ... does this mean that the ego is not truth or not love? Tisziji: "It could be said, that Ego is that which stands in the way, as a form of subconscious obstruction, to that which is the freedom and magnificence of Heart-Love, Transcendent Love or Pure Selfless Compassion .... there cannot be and is no formula about what that is, beyond a point, when you're selfless there is nothing else but the Heart"

Question: "you wrote that "an eye for an eye is the law of the jungle, created by the animal for the animal" Tisziji: "Yes, it applies to the animal, the predator in all of us, so it's instinctual, it's prehistoric ... the dark side of us, the Beast ... not the Happy Free practice (of enlightenment)" instinct, predatory, law of the jungle, darkness, transcendent, spiritual

Question: "Three questions relating to quotes in Tisziji's books" Topics - Spontaneous Ecstatic Creativity, Acting knowledgable previous to Transcending pretenses, Times of Initiation, Spiritual Practice & Encouragement Tisziji: "(on the Master's function) Burning away your gravity/karma programs, and that in turn prepares you for other aspects of your progression, which if missed there is no realization, more or less, thhre is an awareness of realization, a recognition that it exists, but no REALization because you're not giving up enough of your gravity (mechanical habit) programs, your shackles and chains ..."

Question: Six various short quotes from Tisziji's books Tisziji: "How can you become free .. if you're not <i>really</i> bound? You <i>think</i> you're not free"

Question :"How do we reconcile that which unites us as people with that which divides us?" Answer : Tisziji Speaks ...

Question : Whey as we become more spiritually aware we avoid ... uh " Answer : tisziji Speaks - "There is no Avoidance ..."